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2000 North American Archive of International Speedway
Message Section
June 29, 2000
From: kcv83@dial.pipex.com
To: "Internet Speedway Fan Club List"
Subject: KING'S LYNN v IPSWICH (KOC) - June 28
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 00 00:51:33 +0100
Karl Wrote....
>With regards to the June 28th date, the SCB ruling is based on the rules
>and when a fixture is not officially logged, there has to be agreement
>between both sides that the date is acceptable - irrespective of the
>reason. You could argue that Lynn chose this date to force Ipswich to
>ride without Gollob to give them more of a chance?!
Firstly Karl I have a copy of the rule book here and would quote you an
extract from rule 14.5:
"In the event of it being necessary to re-arrange an official fixture,
the participating Promoters shall be given 8 days in which to mutually
agree a date for the re-staging. Should they fail to agree, the authority
to specify a date for the re-run of the fixture will pass to the MC."
In this contect MC stands for the BSPA management committee. THEY said
the meeting should go ahead on Wednesday June 28 - so where was the
problem?
June 21 was unacceptable to Ipswich because Toni (Svab) and Matej
(Ferjan) had WC Continental semi-finals the following day. Fair enough
no argument on that score.
July 5 is out - Televised league meeting at Lynn and, besides which,
Ipswich wouldn't have come on that date as Toni Svab is in the Czech
Championship. No argument again.
But what IS (or rather WAS) Ipswich's argument against June 28? NO
riders from either team had riding commitments that night
>At no time has
>Tomasz refused to ride on that date
Do you know that as a fact?
Bryn
Cheers
Karl
From: karl.iat@dial.pipex.com
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Subject: re: KLynn vs Ipswich KOC
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 08:45:37 +0100
In reply to Bryn:
Unfortunately I do not have the relevant rules to hand but as I
understand it, the SCB ruling is because June 28th was not an
'officially logged' fixture -
exactly what that means I'm not sure but I seem to recall Belle Vue used
the same rule against Ipswich a few years back.
As to your second question, it was reported in our local paper by one of
the club reps - most probably JL(can't remember) that Tomasz had not
refused to ride on that date, but as I said before, he has planned
committments in his home country. This being 3 days before the biggest
event on their calendar and him being their biggest star, I don't think
it's unreasonable.
I'm sure King's Lynn must be able to find another date, especially as
they effectively own the venue.
On another point, why don't the Elite League promoters get together and
run an individual event for all the non GP riders. They could run on
weeks when the GP is on which would give fans and riders some
continuity, with perhaps qualifiers and a big GP style final at the end
of the season for the 'Clubmans Cup'
Cheers
Karl
From: jangrainger@bigpond.com
To: "Internet Speedway Fan Club List"
Subject: Re: RE:[speedway] greatest rider
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 17:49:20 +1000
Actually Glenn, we were speaking of Tommy Jannson so I thought I'd sent
this note via the list just in case Stephen and I have confused other
people. I'll contact you directly, I'm sure I have your e-mail address
here somewhere !!!
From: kcv83@dial.pipex.com
To: "Internet Speedway Fan Club List"
Subject: In reply to Karl
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 00 09:55:41 +0100
Karl wrote...
>In reply to Bryn:
>Unfortunately I do not have the relevant rules to hand but as I
>understand it, the SCB ruling is because June 28th was not an
>'officially logged' fixture -
>exactly what that means I'm not sure but I seem to recall Belle Vue used
>the same rule against Ipswich a few years back.
As of yesterday (June 28) King's Lynn are still awaiting written
confirmation of the SCB's decision but their understanding is the same as
yours in that the SCB ruled that the meeting didn't have to be ridden
last night as it wasn't a 'logged' fixture in the original calendar. The
ramifications of the decision are dreadful if you think about it in terms
of trying to rearrange postponed fixtures and that is exactly the reason
why the rule I quoted yesterday is in the rule book! Our next 'blank
date' at King's Lynn is August 16.
>As to your second question, it was reported in our local paper by one of
>the club reps - most probably JL(can't remember) that Tomasz had not
>refused to ride on that date, but as I said before, he has planned
>committments in his home country. This being 3 days before the biggest
>event on their calendar and him being their biggest star, I don't think
>it's unreasonable.
Are you saying GP riders should be allowed to miss meetings in a GP week
then Karl? What about the paying public in Britain and, indeed in Sweden?
Cheers
Bryn
From: zoltan.kosa@hbrt.hu
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Subject: Lonigo
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 12:54:00 +0200
Could anybody tell me when next weekend's Continental Final will start?
Zoltan
From: brettg@gil.com.au
To: "Internet Speedway Fan Club List"
Subject: Oz GP Venue
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 20:48:34 +1000
All Australian speedway fans are waiting in anticipation to hear if we =
are awarded a round of the Grand Prix in 2001.
There is also a fair degree of speculation surrounding the likely =
stadium which will stage this extravaganza. Melbourne is perhaps the =
favourite in many people's eyes at this stage. I wonder if Melbourne =
gets the go ahead whether it will be at Olympic Park (not to be confused =
with the Mildura venue by the same name)?
It is possible that the new air safety fence introduced in this years =
series may open up a host of other options which would otherwise have =
been excluded previously because of concrete/wooden safety fences. =
Interesting food for thought!
Perhaps the biggest obstacle however is likely to be the FIM =
specifications regarding track size and shape.
In my opinion the 2 best stadiums for staging speedway in Australia are =
the Wayville Showground in Adelaide and the Ekka in Brisbane. Both are =
likely to be ineligible however on different grounds; the Ekka is too =
narrow (only 9 Metres wide) whereas Wayville is possibly too large (more =
along the lines of Longtrack proportions).
In terms of present venues which consistently dish up quality racing, it =
would be hard to go past the Newcastle Motordrome. This however is =
unlikely to get a guernsey because of a) inadequate spectating =
facilities, b) shape (it is a huge D), and c) it is not in a capital =
city.
One cannot help but think that if Australia is fortunate enough to be =
awarded a GP, it is likely to be a purpose built track for the occasion.
Any other comments/views by Australian speedway fans or Overseas =
visitors who have been down under?
Brett Garrigan
ICQ 16941821
From: esseciem@tin.it
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Subject: Re: Lonigo
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 14:24:09 +0200
hi all,
meeting will start at 9.00 p.m. Saturday 8th July
Start list:
1 Walasek PL
2 Svab CZ
3 Swist PL
4 Kugelman D
5 Jablonksi PL
6 Nagy H
7 Skornicki PL
8 Santej SLO
9 Brhel CZ
10 Protasiewicz PL
11 Barth D
12 Castagna I
13 Ferjan SLO
14 Ulamek PL
15 Adorjan H
16 Bajerski PL
17 Kokins LAT
18 Dalla Valle I
Mauro Cavazzana
From: kcv83@dial.pipex.com
To: "Internet Speedway Fan Club List"
Subject: IOW MATCH REPORT
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 00 21:09:45 +0100
ISLE of WIGHT 48 STOKE 42
(Premier League)
Tuesday June 27
IOW
R. Morton 2 3 3 1' 9 (1)
R. Juul 1' 1 3 0 5 (1)
S. Swain 1' 2 3 2 2 10 (1)
D. Bird 2 0 0 3 5
A. Shields 2* 3 2 2 1' 10 (1)
T. Palmer 3 0 0 2' 5 (1)
G. Phillips 2' 1' 1 0 4 (2)
T/M George Major
STOKE
P. Pickering R* 3 1' 3 3 3 13 (1)
M. Burrows 3 1 2 2 1 9
D. Walsh 3 1' 2 3 0 9 (1)
T. Atkin rider replacement
B. Werner 3 2 2 1' 0 8 (1)
W. Broadhurst 1 0 0 0 1 1 3
D. McAllan 0 Fx - - 0
T/M Nigel Crabtree
Referee Chris Gay
* = handicapped 15 metres for tape offence
HEATS:
1.(r/r tapes) Burrows, Morton, Juul, Pickering (ret)*. 71.1 (3-3)
2. Palmer, Phillips, Broadhurst, McAllan. 72.8 (8-4)
3. Walsh, Bird, Swain, Broadhurst. 71.3 (11-7)
4. (r/r twice) Werner, Shields *, Phillips, McAllan (fell-ex). 71.0
(14-10)
5. Pickering, Swain, Burrows, Bird. 71.2 (16-14)
6. Morton, Werner, Juul, Broadhurst. 70.5 (20-16)
7. Shields, Burrows, Walsh, Palmer. 71.6 (23-19)
8. Juul, Burrows, Phillips, Broadhurst. 71.2 (27-21)
9. Swain, Werner, Pickering, Bird. 71.0 (30-24)
10. Morton, Walsh, Werner, Juul. 72.0 (33-27)
11. Pickering, Shields, Burrows, Palmer. 71.1 (35-31)
12. Walsh, Swain, Broadhurst, Phillips. 71.1 (37-35)
13. Pickering, Morton, Shields, Werner. 71.4 (40-38)
14.(three riders only) Bird, Palmer, Broadhurst. 72.0 (45-39)
15. Pickering, Swain, Shields, Walsh. 71.2 (48-42)
From: kcv83@dial.pipex.com
To: "Internet Speedway Fan Club List"
Subject: IOW v STOKE - COMMENTS
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 00 21:29:56 +0100
Further to earlier posting given scorers and heat details, this match was
undoubtedly the best seen so far this season on the Isle of Wight.
Racing was competitive from start to finish with Stoke, augmented by
guest Brent Werner, providing lively opposition.
Both Paul Pickering and Adam Shields suffered penalties for touching the
tapes - Pickering could make no impression on the others in the opening
heat and ultimately retired whilst Shields collected second place in the
re-run of heat 4. David McAllan was a faller first time around being
excluded by referee Chris Gay.
Unfortunately it looks as if the youngster has sustained a broken bone in
his back something that showed up on x-rays when he, eventually, agreed
to go to hospital.
Stoke were well served by their three heat leaders and the
ever-entertaining Buzz Burrows whilst the Islanders put in a solid
all-round effort and their winning margin would certainly have been more
but for fuel starvation problems encountered by Ray Morton's machine
whilst he was leading his first and fourth rides.
Those problems led to all four riders crossing the finishing line in heat
13 with barely a wheel's length between them.
Stoke could only track one rider in heat 14 and the resultant 5-1
clinched the victory for the Islanders.
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